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Post by zez on Oct 14, 2008 11:10:39 GMT -5
The king of the avatar...lol...thanks LX...appreciate it bro
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Post by Velocihuman on Oct 14, 2008 11:23:57 GMT -5
As an impartial outsider not knowing the background, it seems like it's just time to move on.
RF had a great thing going (and will again) so why would anyone leave it?
I dont know you eze, but it sounds like you are offering people something they already have. A vibrant Raptors forum.
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Post by zez on Oct 14, 2008 11:27:58 GMT -5
As an impartial outsider not knowing the background, it seems like it's just time to move on. RF had a great thing going (and will again) so why would anyone leave it? I dont know you eze, but it sounds like you are offering people something they already have. A vibrant Raptors forum. The air needed to be cleared...I didn't appreciate a few things that were said about me by some, and in addition, multiple older posters who post at both places, asked me to offer EBS as a place to reside till RF returned. So, I did
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Post by BasketBananaBoy on Oct 14, 2008 11:32:44 GMT -5
I loved our forum at EBS, Eze - everyone did - everyone bought into the site - I know I contributed a lot of my hard-earned money to the site - even bought EBS gear. But the situation with the posters from other boards (ie, Mavericks) just got way out of hand. It went from one big community to us being divided. People weren't being tactful - and in the end, it's what alienated a lot of us from the site.
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Post by zez on Oct 14, 2008 11:37:23 GMT -5
I loved our forum at EBS, Eze - everyone did - everyone bought into the site - I know I contributed a lot of my hard-earned money to the site - even bought EBS gear. But the situation with the posters from other boards (ie, Mavericks) just got way out of hand. It went from one big community to us being divided. People weren't being tactful - and in the end, it's what alienated a lot of us from the site. Sadly, it simply becomes unavoidable with multiple teamed forums. Raps board wasn't the first to leave. Knicks board did. Mavs board did. Some King fans did. They just came back. lol Unless it's run like a Nazi camp, it's simply unavoidable sadly. That's the best part of RF. Only thing you have to deal with is annoying posters of your own fan base, which is much easier...but at the same time, it's only your own fan base, which at times can be boring if you like to talk other teams than the Raps.
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Post by The B to the Enzo on Oct 14, 2008 11:47:49 GMT -5
I will have you all know, I will not be returning to RF, or EBS, or RealGM, or ESPN, or Yahoo...
...I will go to the greatest Raptor messageboard of ALL TIME.. .
..........THIS ONE......YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just think the mods here are the bee's knees.
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Post by StinkPalm on Oct 14, 2008 11:48:34 GMT -5
I will have you all know, I will not be returning to RF, or EBS, or RealGM, or ESPN, or Yahoo... ...I will go to the greatest Raptor messageboard of ALL TIME.. . ..........THIS ONE......YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just think the mods here are the bee's knees. Now I'm Torn
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Post by zez on Oct 14, 2008 11:50:18 GMT -5
I will have you all know, I will not be returning to RF, or EBS, or RealGM, or ESPN, or Yahoo... ...I will go to the greatest Raptor messageboard of ALL TIME.. . ..........THIS ONE......YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just think the mods here are the bee's knees. The Admin though, holy shit...
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Post by Conqueror of the Goths on Oct 14, 2008 11:50:33 GMT -5
With the treatment I have received from Benzo, no. That is all!
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Post by Acie on Oct 14, 2008 11:56:46 GMT -5
I just think the mods here are the bee's knees. I couldn't agree more. Nothing like the inmates running the asylum.
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Post by doc on Oct 14, 2008 12:00:14 GMT -5
Personally, I can deal with pinto, hamb and pumpkin. I have nothing against those guys. There were others who had too long of a leash that still remain there that feel they can express their opinions no matter how racist or radical they are and nothing being done about it. The one example I'm referring to is the shit Rasam had to put up with a couple months back which helped make my decision that EBS really wasn't the place for me any longer. Sure Rasam can be vocal at times, but at least he respected his peers there. If it were a Raptors member that was doing the provoking they would of been toast ala funkie and SJ. But fuckin' twats like those two still have keys to the car. I'll never truley understand. The nail in the coffin for me though was the invasion of privacy of my PM's. I know for a fact that I had 10 PM's that were removed from my inbox and the reason why I know this is because I never delete PM's so I can keep a paper trail in the future incase I need to refer back to something. 7 or 8 of them were from Keith who made contact with me when I came back 3 months ago before he was banned and the others were from guys like pp4_me and rapsfan087. Nothing secretive in any of those PM's, but on principle alone I find it totally unacceptable. So, if you say you didn't access my account then I'll believe you Eze, but someone did and that I can't forgive nor can I trust you or Harry. I know you guys have the ability too check PM's and have so because Cosmic did himself back in the day, but there's always a sense of paranoia and a lack of privacy and I couldn't help but constantly be looking over my shoulder when I came back then. Under certain situations I think it warrants such a bold move, but to do it to someone who you claim to have a ton of respect towards I just can't understand. I told you I wasn't going to recruit people when I left. If people asked me I told them. It wasn't until I made my decision 3 months ago that I would never return that I tried to convince the few that did remain to come to RF. Because at that point I was pissed and really didn't care anymore. Bottom line is that it comes down to difference of opinions. I wanted a place to talk basketball and you guys wanted it to become more of an off-topic forum and spend the money that was donated to interviews of models and photos of hot chicks. I must of been misunderstood at the time thinking that it was going towards something entirely different along the lines of basketball. My bad.
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Post by The B to the Enzo on Oct 14, 2008 12:08:52 GMT -5
I smell the air clearing...
...I really just want credit for busting KAS, and putting so much pressure on him, that he admitted it to me.
There were and I believe still are some Raptor forum members, that still don't know the situation. Selfish....yes...
...and I can also say for a fact that some of my PM's dissapeared as well, the KAS ones anyway.
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Post by Superjudge on Oct 14, 2008 12:09:03 GMT -5
I'd like to go on record for once and only once. I was once banned from EBS for Standing up to some pretty strong racism. I Pm'd the Head fella and asked him nicely to shut a thread down that was going no place fast, and was leading towards guys flat out calling another guy a "terrorist" for being from a certain Country and being proud of his heritage.
The Stories told in the background were terrible. The things that were said to have come from myself, entirely fabricated and really insulting. Thats what I DIDN'T like about that place. Period.
Aside fom that, EBS is still a great board, and I'll keep stopping in from time to time. Thats where Josh SMith likes to talk to me! Me and Josh, we go way back. Jokes a plenty I tell ya.
The whole point of message boards is to be able to go to a place and relax. Joke around, talk some ball, hell, talk some "Hills" if need be. The thought of taking a serious and honest dislike to another poster is a bit sad. Personal attacks, name calling (direct name calling), racism, Xenophobia, homophobia, they are all parts of real life that can creep into this virtual worl from time to time. We all as adults have to be man enough, and big enough to let a few things slide, but to also stay intolerable. We have to know when to apologise, and when to accept the apology.
I guess I'm not going anywhere with this accept tp point out that it's ok to be on all boards. It's ok to accept the US guys, the MAvs guys, the Crazy Raps guy, accept us all as human beings, as real people, and it's ok to accept us for our faults as well as for all the great, funny, stupid as hell, honest and mischievious things we post everyday. It's ok guys. We all love hoops, we all wanna be here, or there, or over there.
I'd love to see a day where we can all relax and play the part of the grown individual. Banter, bickering, a few harsh words are gonna be there, absorb them as best you can and trust tht the guys running the board will deal with the serious stuff. Be strong enough and act like you've been there before.
At the end of the day it's all light, were all friends, and this is all by choice, not by obligation.
I have lived by this online for years, and it works. Because of it, some of the guys I argue with the most I have met in real life and played ball with and have become friends with. It's a wonderful opportunity fella's, I urge you all to give it a go in this way, you'll be happy you did, and your time online, either at RF or at EBS, a heck of a lot more enjoyable.
So that ya have my two cents.
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Post by doc on Oct 14, 2008 12:10:49 GMT -5
And you should know you can't remove PM's single by single...it's a mass delete or nothing. I guess maybe one could get into the script and make some changes? I don't know..but being an Admin at RF, you should know that everything is a mass delete of PM's or nothing. There isn't a way to remove single PM's. Or not one that I am aware of. Well, I don't know because its not something I've ever researched as an Admin at RF. Either way, I know what's been done and it can't be fixed. I'm moving on and for those that want to revive EBS then all power to them. Those who want to stick with RF are more than welcome as always. I just know that my EBS days are over there.
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Post by The B to the Enzo on Oct 14, 2008 12:12:11 GMT -5
I really can't put the blame all on Eze's shoulders though, it really is quite simple to me.
It came down to the fact that, we (a raptor board) wanted something else, than that place was becomming, I said it on a number of occassions that a decision needed to be made or the Raps forum would go away..
Eze has already stated, that he wanted to grow the forum outside of basketball, which is fine, but we constantly got referred to as a "circle jerk" which couldn't be father from the truth, our dissagreements just never denegrated to sub-human levels.
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